Comments on: Federal legislation aims to prevent caller id spoofing

by: Steven K. Brown

Thu, 24 May 2007 01:10:34 +0000

There are many good and valid uses for caller ID spoofing that have nothing to do with fraud or misrepresentation. Those who limited their vision to abuses and not to positive uses are narrow in their thinking.

For instance, I have a family law case where my client is the wife. She wants telephonic contact from me at her home telephone but doesn’t want my agency phone number to show up on her caller Id because her abusive husband routinely scrolls through their caller ID data to see who has called.

So she gave me the phone number of a close friend of hers to spoof so when I call, the friends number shows up. This is a perfectly acceptable use of this good tool.

Any tool, whether it be a hammer or a telephone can be abused.

by: Edgar Harris

Wed, 09 May 2007 04:20:32 +0000

The problem is the widespread availability of Caller ID spoofing services. There’s even a tutorial on setting up a caller ID spoofing server (http://www.gadgettrail.com/2005/01/06/do-it-yourself-caller-id-spoofing/). Maybe spoofing could be regulated by the FCC. Only certified and licensed entities could do it?

by: Esquire Litigation Associates

Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:05:48 +0000

i disagree mr. wise. imo, this is not an appropriate investigative tool. it is fraud however you slice it.

clearly, the legislature will address intent broader than “fraud or intent to do harm”, because telemarketers “spoof” merely to get folk to answer the phone. further, during elections some candidates do the same thing.

imo, this is a tool you should leave behind and think of another way to obtain this information.

by: William Wise

Wed, 31 May 2006 17:57:37 +0000

I think loosing the ability to spoof will remove a excellent tool. I can understand the need to protect people from fraud or abuse and criminal activity.But when you are using the information in a lawful manner to apprehend fugtives,locate missing children and attempting to protect the public at large.At some point the question comes up is the greater good being preserved for the few or the many?

by: Rob Douglas

Thu, 25 May 2006 21:33:26 +0000

I see where Bruce Hulme is claiming victory on this bill. Oops–I mean wrongly claiming victory in an attempt to get PIs to pony up money for the feckless NCISS. As someone intimately involved in the bills crafting I can tell you the language change was at the request of NNEDV–not NCISS. The change was made in an attempt to protect women residing in the more than 3000 battered women’s shelters across the U.S. Further, I have it on good authority that the language change will not hold in the Senate–indeed it is quite possible it won’t hold in the current House bill as changes are already being discussed. A differing intent standard will be crafted to protect women and also stop caller ID spoofing being used as part of pretext operations by information brokers, et al. Finally, any PI or info broker who believes that the bill is designed to allow a PI to deceive the recipient of a call is sorely mistaken and better read the conference report language currently being crafted as part of the legislative history that will be available to enforcement agencies and judges. I would also remind folks that the Unfair and Deceptive Trade Practices Act at the state and federal levels remains in play. So my best advice (for what it’s worth) would be think before you accept the advice of those seeking to claim false–or at least premature–victory designed to raise funds. That advice could sadly have you end up on the wrong end of a legal action for spoofing.

by: Tamara Thompson

Wed, 24 May 2006 16:33:26 +0000

The addition of the phrase “intent to defraud” clarifies that this law is aimed toward those who alter the phone number displayed for criminal gain, not, say, process servers who are confirming a physical address?

by: Rob Douglas

Wed, 24 May 2006 15:36:16 +0000

At the bill mark-up this morning an amendment added the following language: “…with the intent to defraud or cause harm.” The bill passed out of committee without opposition and was referred to the full House for passage.

by: Rob Douglas

Tue, 23 May 2006 14:19:22 +0000

Testimony at the Caller-ID Spoofing hearing raised the concerns that Brian references in his post. Look for the bill to be amended to address those concerns, most likely through adding an intent component. The legal question becoming: Did the caller act intentionally to deceive the recipient of the call as to the true identity of the caller?

by: Brian Poirier

Mon, 22 May 2006 15:42:21 +0000

Actually I think the telco carriers may have a problem - many trunk lines they issue to large companies (like telemarketers, insurance companies, etc) show a false number on caller ID that in no way connects to the caller.

Therefor, the Telco will have to spend alot of $$$ to redo all their switching software (and maybe hardware), and the clients themselves may need to update their PBXs, to depict correct Caller ID.